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Tutu Ogle running a session on ‘Growing through uncertainty’ at the Women into Leadership conference in Belfast in March

Katherine Hutchinson speaks to member Tutu Ogle about her burgeoning career and how her union is supporting its growth.

Tutu Ogle is a solicitor, working within Northern Ireland’s Departmental Solicitor’s Office in the Department of Finance, where she provides legal advice to government departments. Having joined the FDA in 2022, she is currently a member of the FDA’s Northern Ireland Section Committee as one of the representatives for the Department of Finance.

Her role on the committee involves attending regular Whitley (formal consultation) meetings with legal employers within the Northern Ireland Civil Service (NICS), where she “discusses how they’re managing business, including reviewing candidate applications for temporary roles and tries to be a voice of reason to ensure that it’s suitable across board and our members are not disadvantaged.

“I also attend the Diversity and Equality Whitley meeting for the whole of the civil service. That is very useful because they are going through massive policy change across Northern Ireland on disability policy, working from home policy and also dealing with women’s wellbeing, which in itself has now become a separate group, which I also represent.

“I represent the FDA on the women’s wellbeing and health forum where they are trying to develop policies and processes. At the moment they’re running a sort of focus group to listen to what women are saying, what they want and how they would like to be engaged and supported in work.”

Ogle also works with the NICS HR team to volunteer within a recently established programme to support people at work who are experiencing domestic violence:

“I have volunteered that whenever they have space, I would like to be able to support people who are going through domestic violence because I have both personal and professional experience in this area and I understand what people might be going through.”

As an FDA member, Ogle says she has benefited from taking advantage of FDA Learn’s career development programme: “It has been very positive. It has really helped me to understand how to write applications better. It is absolutely valuable, what I have personally gained from it and what I have seen others gain from it.

“A colleague of mine was supported and was able to get a Grade 6 role, and another received interview training and was successful in attaining a Grade 7 post. So, FDA Learn is extremely valuable here in Northern Ireland.”

She notes that due to the differences between the application processes for UK and NI jobs, without the training she received from FDA Learn – particularly in Behaviours and interviews – she would have found it impossible to apply for UK Civil Service-based roles in NI.

Ogle adds that she also gained networking opportunities through FDA Learn: “There was a very senior civil servant in Scotland who offered to review my application for me. If I was not on the FDA Learn training, I would never have come into contact with her and I would not have had the benefit of her wisdom.”

She also recently presented at the Women into Leadership Belfast, one of a series of conferences hosted by Total Events in partnership with the FDA, that are designed to support women in the civil service to progress in their careers.

Ogle says that speaking at the event, which she was invited to do at short notice due to the original speaker becoming unavailable, gave her the opportunity to reflect on her own career and the challenges she has faced, and that the experience helped her to “appreciate that you have leaders within different grades and levels.”

She adds: “I attended because I was able to do so through the FDA, and from there I got the opportunity to share my own experiences, to talk about leadership in a time of uncertainty and to reflect on myself and realise that I have developed to a position where I can offer more to others than I actually think I can.

“We’re so used to ourselves that we sometimes minimise what we have, and what we can contribute in different scenarios. Until somebody puts us on the spot in a positive way, you’ll not be able to reflect on these things. So it was a great opportunity and I enjoyed it.”

Ogle has also recently signed up to be mentored through the FDA’s Public Sector Development and Mentoring Scheme:

“I have had mentors before, but this was different, because he listened to my experiences and was able to let me know that I actually am in a position where I can move on and move forward and he thinks that if I’m ready, if I’m willing, I can actually go for a promotion. So for an initial meeting, it was absolutely amazing.”

Tutu Ogle

FDA NI Committee member

We’re so used to ourselves that sometimes we minimise what we have, and what we can contribute in different scenarios.

Although large parts of the mentoring scheme are focused on the processes used in the UK civil service, it is still relevant to members in Northern Ireland and Ogle says NI members should be encouraged to join: “Employment is employment and from the conversation and the support I’ve had so far, it will benefit me wherever I apply for work. I think it can be a mentoring programme that, depending on the person, can give you an outlook to see how you can grow your own career in Northern Ireland.

“I don’t think there’s a reason for people in Northern Ireland not to avail of the opportunity. A mentoring programme is as good as who the mentor and the mentee are at getting something out of it. So I recommend the programme for people in Northern Ireland.”

The Public Sector Development and Mentoring Scheme (PSDMS) is a positive action initiative led by the FDA. In partnership with civil service employers (including the Fast Stream and departmental diversity networks) and partner universities, we work to support a more diverse senior workforce in the civil service.

The scheme runs all year round and is refreshed with the university academic year, running to the end of the application processes for schemes that offer graduate entry such as the civil service Fast Stream and others including the Tax Specialist Programme (TSP) in HMRC.

Members of the FDA who are currently on schemes like the Fast Stream act as mentors to students and serving civil servants from diverse backgrounds, to encourage them to apply for the Fast Stream and other civil service schemes. 

PSDMS aims to:

  • Establish mentoring of students and civil servants to encourage them to view entry to – or advancement within – the civil service as a career path
  • Offer skills sessions focussed on civil service application processes
  • Provide bespoke sessions based on the application process for the Fast Stream and other schemes (including the Tax Specialist Programme) 

What do we offer to mentors?

  • Training to become effective mentors
  • Courses to support mentors with appraisal processes such as the Development Trajectory and end of scheme assessments in Fast Stream
  • Being a mentor counts towards Fast Streamers’ corporate objectives
  • The opportunity to support skills training and familiarisation events for mentees 

What do we offer to mentees?

  • A match with a mentor – offering light touch remote mentoring at an agreed level (as a benchmark 4 X 1 hour over 6 months might be reasonable but there is no fixed approach)
  • Early access to skills sessions focussed on a generic approach to the civil service application processes.
  • Later access to bespoke sessions based on the application process for civil service development schemes

How do I get involved? If you are interested in becoming a mentor, or would like to find out more information, please email organiser@fda.org.uk.

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